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Iโ€™m going to step into a minefield here, but as usual I donโ€™t really give a fuck.

This is a good example of taking something out of its cultural context.

The song does sound rape-y today โ€“ to us. And I agree with Amanda that any reason a woman says no is a good reason.

However, it was widely understood at the time the song was released (as a commenter also points out) that the woman in the piece was saying โ€œnoโ€ but meaning yes.

Again โ€“ please read this carefully (and before you comment, read it again) โ€“ this song existed in a completely different cultural context, where many of our assumptions were not present, and where many completely different ones were present.

Hereโ€™s how we hear the song today: the woman is about to be raped, OMG!

Hereโ€™s how people in 1943 (accurately) heard and understood the song: the woman really, really wants to fuck and is looking for every excuse imaginable to do so without social penalty. Yep, even the part about, โ€œHey, whatโ€™s in this drink?โ€ At the time, being โ€œdrunkโ€ (aka โ€œnot really drunkโ€) was seen as valid excuse for all sorts of allegedly licentious behavior on the part of a woman, and women were permitted socially to use that as a reason for why theyโ€™d โ€œfallen.โ€

If you listen to the original and how it is sung this is completely, completely clear. It would take a damn idiot to think anything else. But alas, there are many of those around.

I am surprised when even โ€œeducatedโ€ people like Amanda Marcotte cannot accurately evaluate historical context and understand how much that can change over time.

Again, I am not endorsing the song. Speaking as a person today, I listen to this song and cringe. But then I recognize that I am a creature of my time, so of course I do. Decent people today if there is even a hint of reluctance stop immediately. But again โ€“ understand just how much cultural context has changed.

Can people not step outside of themselves for one moment in time? Is that just not possible? I guess not.

If people like Marcotte and 90% of the commenters cannot do this, what fucking good is all this education Iโ€™ve been told is paramount? For most people, it appears to not do even one little bit of good.

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