Too tired to go into detail now, but people like Claire really, really want there to be some ghost in the machine.

But there just is not. It is simply not there. Wishful thinking doesn’t make it appear. The expanded Church-Turing Thesis is basically correct. There is nothing any more or less special about an LLM or a human in that sense than there is between a fish and submarine.

Both move through the water; both think.

(Also, I find Claire’s position deeply moronic and her metaphor not just wrong, but not even wrong.)