Listening to men talk — just how dismissive of and derisive towards women they are — reminds me of why I don’t really have any male friends.
Women have some idea of course. They receive the harassment. They overhear the cloistered conversations, sometimes.
But I’m betting that women mostly have no idea just how they are talked about when they aren’t present, just how much hatred and venom is directed their way by everyday “average” men. Just how much their every effort is dismissed, their every action and thought minimized, denigrated and trivialized.
I know it’s not all men. But it’s the majority. It’s impossible to say for sure, but I’d say that about 95% of men are irredeemably sexist.
So women, if you hate men: you should.
Which internet comments section is most representative of this phenomenon?
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This is based on conversations I hear in person almost exclusively. Conversations with no women present where the men don’t realize they have a traitor — me — in their midst.
Oh I realize that. I was just trying to get a bead on how much of the worst comment sections reflect what men say to each other when discussing women when women are not present. IOW, how much does seeing any face (but not a female human face) inhibit men?
This works for racism as well. People are surprisingly comfortable saying and doing racist things in front of me that aren’t specific to my group.
Men in front of other men are pretty uninhibited, but places like 4Chan are probably worse.
What makes me shake my head is these derogatory comments about women, and so many men of these same men spend so much of their lives (voluntarily) with women.
I can’t say I understand, really.
Some men want an equal. Many men just want a roommate that provides sex, housecleaning, home-cooked meals and childcare and they don’t need to have very much respect for that, especially if they compartmentalize. If it happens in the men’s locker room, it stays in the locker room and doesn’t count. Besides, with all of their complaining, it’s still a better deal for them than forgoing female companionship — so the thinking goes.
The amount of respect required to spend a lifetime with someone is surprisingly low especially in a marriage with a conservative mindset. Marriage has been a contract with a property transfer for two thousand years. It’s literally a blink of time right now in which other models exist. FFS, my mother has me signed on a matrimonial site with a “How much dowry are you worth” game — aimed at dudes.