Why are old people so scared?

Kevin Drum is in his own little world. A very, very stupid world.

Here he is attempting to defend his delusional Clinton defense yesterday. Look, vote for Clinton if you want to. But donโ€™t lie with statistics to justify it.

All the scared old guys are panicking even though thereโ€™s no chance Bernie will win. Not only that, they are doing an intellectualized version of โ€œThese entitled millennials wonโ€™t pipe down and let those who know best tell them whatโ€™s good for them.โ€

But hereโ€™s how not to lie with statistics. As to Kevin Drumโ€™s idiotic contention that

About 70 percent of college grads have debt under $30,000, and the default rate on college debt is about the same as it was 30 years ago.

Thatโ€™s very convenient. Now hereโ€™s whatโ€™s really going on.

The average class of 2015 graduate with student-loan debt will have to pay back a little more than $35,000, according to an analysis of government data by Mark Kantrowitz, publisher at Edvisors, a group of websites about planning and paying for college. Even adjusted for inflation, thatโ€™s still more than twice the amount borrowers had to pay back two decades earlier.

Not only is average debt rising, but more students are taking out loans to finance secondary education. Almost 71% of bachelorโ€™s degree recipients will graduate with a student loan, compared with less than half two decades ago and about 64% 10 years ago.

Which of course devastates the ability to do things previous generations took for granted, like being able to buy a starter house or to start a family.

Not to mention this. Oh wait, you pseudo-intellectual putz Drum, I just did. (Read that whole piece. Itโ€™s really good.)

In other words, even after the housing collapse, a home today costs approximately three times as much as a home in 1970 compared to the average wage that a person earns.

Any why is Drum talking only about college grads? More than 60% of the country has no degree of any kind. Oh wait, donโ€™t tell me โ€” itโ€™s because it makes his deceitful argument look better.

But letโ€™s take a gander at how life is for the other 60% โ€” those unaccountable wretches Drum is willing to just discard because they donโ€™t matter at all โ€” to him, to Clinton, or to Drumโ€™s sad sophistry.

The gap between those with a bachelorโ€™s degree and those without is wide and (somewhat) increasing.

While โ€” again โ€” all the necessities of life like housing, health care and education rise in price far in excess of the headline inflation number. Thatโ€™s a whole other post, but inflation in these is masked by huge deflation in electronics, clothes, food and cars over the same period. So you have to be smarter than people like Drum and actually examine what the inflation number is telling you.

Going back a little, I have no idea where Drum got his median household income number of $67,000, but it has never been that high in the US. Notice his number is sourceless but has a pretty Excel spreadsheet (probably from the Heritage Foundation or somewhere).

The real median income in the US is about $52,000. (Linking to Wikipedia, but verified at other places as well.)

And I make fun of Kevin Drum for being a moron (because he is), but he is a particular kind of moron with a high IQ and lots of education so that he believes โ€” correctly in most cases โ€” that he can hoodwink most people. Hereโ€™s another example, that of his linking to the Employment Cost Index to โ€œproveโ€ that โ€œtotal compensationโ€ hasnโ€™t declined.

Well, โ€œtotal compensationโ€ and the ECI is complete bullshit for most people because it measures things that are (you guessed it) constantly over-inflating like health care premiums that your employer contributes for you. So, the average wage-earner does not see this in their paycheck and it does not help them or the economy in any way (it actually harms the economy as money is siphoned off [basically embezzled] to wasteful uses like health insurance corps).

In Drumโ€™s and Mannionโ€™s views, millennials should just pipe down, ignore the college debt and/or that they cannot afford to go to college at all, scorn the idea of ever buying a home or having decent healthcare so they can get to the really important task of making sure that the oldsterโ€™s Social Security payouts donโ€™t fall and house prices donโ€™t decline even a single percentage point.

Drum gives a master class in how to lie with statistics. And really this post could be 10,000 words longer where we really get deep into the numbers and refuting Drumโ€™s duplicitousness and Mannionโ€™s smarmy superciliousness. But I try to not write for more than 15 minutes or so and now Iโ€™ve hit my limit โ€” of time as well as exasperation with people like Mannion and Drum.

And in case anyone was wondering, I am not a millennial, and I have a household income that firmly places me in the top 5% of the US. So Clinton would benefit me, and Bernie would not.

Doesnโ€™t make me an oblivious, gormless and brainless statistics-mangling doofus, though.

0 thoughts on “Why are old people so scared?

  1. Clinton is their last best chance at holding the line on the status quo. For various other reasons, the other candidates left in the race aren’t. However this is temporary. It’s not just about individual candidates; it’s about the next few elections and years. Millennials outnumber Boomers or will very soon. Energized millennials will shift the conversation towards their needs which conflict with older whiter generations. Personally as a very late Genxer/early Millennial I am sick of being condescended to by a bunch of smug old whites, especially men, who haven’t had to do half of what I and my peers do to get one quarter of what they get. Literally almost every single peer can run circles around these dudes who think they are more “adult” because of finances. And to see these candidates act like fucking middle schoolers while implying I’m what’s wrong with America? Fuck no. I VOTE. I get other people to VOTE. And I watch polls. And there are more people like me than these pundits know.

    • I’m curious, though — what exactly do they think that is so bad that will happen to them personally if they do not hold the line on the status quo? That’s what I have problems grasping.

      • Medicare and Social Security will break apart. The current system is that current workers pay for retired workers. More Boomers and Silents rely on Social Security and Medicare than you might realize. Because the immediately succeeding generation is smaller, politicians who say there is a Social Security and Medicare crisis that isn’t solvable are always careful to specify they will not cut the benefits of anyone over a certain age. Now many younger people buy this received wisdom. They’ll push the conversation to 1)cutting everyone’s benefits, 2)removing the cap on income for OASDI taxes or 3)just refusing to pay into the system. Now that pile is a big pile of cash many politicians want to raid. Bernie is telling a whole bunch of people who’ve been told all their lives they can’t have nice things that they can have nice things and other people are stopping you and you need to have the political will to do so. It matters that Bernie is from that older generation telling people this. There’s no telling what they’ll do with that knowledge.

        Medicare and Social Security is guillotine and poverty insurance. Medicare is the single biggest payor (or was) of medical bills in the US for these folks. Many people rely on those OASDI checks. They want their cake; they want to eat it too, and they fear and distrust the people who are mitigating the “crisis”. Increasingly it’s the younger more diverse generations that also have more immigrants than their generations.

        The older you are, the less equipped you are to deal with change, many times. A lot of people are losing the certitude of knowing their place in the world, of knowing they are the “best” while others are held down. Any ensuing positive change will come too late to benefit them.

        Basically they are greedy, sad, and short sighted.

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